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Welcome back to the Velo Reset podcast.
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I'm Joey Myers, coach, dad, and Movement First Arm health educator, and today we're stepping into one of the most debated questions in youth baseball.
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When is it safe for a kid to start throwing a curveball?
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If you're a parent, you probably heard both extremes.
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Curveballs ruin arms on one side, and it's fine if they're on the other.
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And the problem is neither of those takes really helps you make a calm, confident decision for your pitcher.
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In this episode, we're going to reframe the whole conversation.
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Instead of treating the curveball as the risk, we'll look at what actually drives arm stress in young throwers, readiness, total workload, and recovery, especially during growth and busy seasons.
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By the end, you'll have a clearer way to think about age guidelines, why they often conflict, and a simple set of questions you can use to decide whether breaking ball makes sense right now or whether it's smarter to wait for durability.
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The age old debate about when young baseball players should start throwing curveballs continues to spark intense discussions among parents, coaches, and medical professionals.
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This common scenario often emerges when children reach ages 10 to 12, throwing well with improving command and growing confidence.
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The question inevitably surfaces.
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Has he started throwing a curveball yet?
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Whether from another parent, a coach, or the player themselves, hired by teammates or online videos, this question creates a challenging dilemma for parents balancing development with safety.
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The traditional approach to this question has focused heavily on age restrictions and blanket rules.
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However, this oversimplified view misses crucial factors that actually determine arm health and safety.
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The core issue isn't whether curveballs are inherently dangerous or safe, it's about understanding the complete context of how and when they're thrown.
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This becomes increasingly important as young athletes specialize earlier, throw more year round, and face pressure to add pitches sooner.
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Research from the American Sports Medicine Institute reveals that arm injuries rarely stem from a single factor.
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Instead, they result from multiple stressors accumulating faster than the body can adapt.
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This finding challenges the conventional wisdom that simply banning curveballs until a certain age guarantees safety.
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Many young pitchers experience arm pain without ever throwing a curveball while others who occasionally throw breaking balls remain healthy.
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The difference typically lies in overall stress management rather than gin.
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The reality is more nuanced.
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Breaking balls add complexity and often require increased forearm and wrist control.
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Young pitchers frequently throw these pitches harder than fastballs because they're trying to create more break, but the pitch itself isn't necessarily the problem.
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It's the timing and context of its introduction.
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Parents often focus solely on pitch type while overlooking more critical questions about total, throwing volume, intensity, fatigue levels, and body mechanics.
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A more accurate approach involves evaluating readiness and capacity.
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Every young pitcher has a current ability to handle stress influenced by multiple factors including growth, coordination, mobility, strength, lesion and recovery, not just age.
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This capacity isn't fixed, it changes with physical development and can be temporarily reduced during growth spurts when bones grow faster than muscles and tendons can adapt.
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Consider these contrasting scenarios.
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An 11 year old throws occasional curveballs during games while also playing shortstop and pitching every weekend.
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When arm soreness develops, the curveball gets blamed.
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However, the actual culprit is likely the total workload and insufficient recovery time.
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Conversely, a high school freshman learning breaking balls in controlled offs and sessions with limited volume and adequate recovery might experience no issues because the stress is properly managed.
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Professional baseball provides another interesting contrast.
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MLB pitchers throw breaking balls extensively, but they do so with mature bodies, refined mechanics, and carefully managed workloads.
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This context doesn't translate directly to youth baseball highlighting the importance of scaling demands appropriately for developing athletes.
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If today's episode brought you any relief, it's probably because it took the pressure off the perfect age question, focus where it belongs.
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Context.
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A curveball isn't inherently bad or safe, yet what matters more is arm readiness, total weekly workload, and whether recovery is actually built in, especially during growth and busy seasons.
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That's the heart of Velo Reset.
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Understanding first, training second.
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We're here for thoughtful parents and pitchers who don't want shortcuts or scare tactics.
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They want a clear way to connect the dots between what they're seeing, tightness, fatigue, a velo dip, mechanics getting all arm, and what they'll be compensating for.
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If you're looking for calm, science aware guidance, you can use week to week, whether you're deciding about a breaking ball, managing innings, or navigating soreness.
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Go to veloreset.com and click arm care tips in the navigation bar.
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It's a simple entry point and there's a free parent friendly diagnostic that helps you identify the most likely pattern your pitcher is dealing with, so you're not guessing about the next step.
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Key factors affecting arm readiness include physical development status, coordination and mechanic, mobility and strength, sleep and nutrition, recovery time, overall throwing volume, and current fatigue levels.
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When any of these factors are compromised the risk of injury increases regardless of pitch type.
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Parents and coaches should shift their focus from is my kid old enough for a curveball to is this arm ready for more complex high intense stress right now?
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This approach considers the total picture of arm health rather than fixating on a single pitch type.
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The question becomes less about age milestones and more about physical purpose stress management.
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A practical framework for evaluating curveball readiness involves three essential questions that should be regularly assessed.
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One, how does the arm feel before throwing?
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Look for loose controlled warm ups without stiffness or forced movements.
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Pay attention to any lingering soreness which can indicate accumulated stress that hasn't properly resolved.
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Two, what is the total weekly workload?
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Consider all throwing activities, games, practices, different positions played, and casual throwing outside organized baseball.
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The new pitch adds stress to this existing load.
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Many young players accumulate significant throwing volume without realizing it.
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Three, is genuine recovery built into the schedule?
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Rest days should mean reduced stress, not just days without games.
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Recovery isn't just about time off.
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It's about allowing the body to adapt to and strengthen from previous stress.
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The timing of introducing a curveball matters significantly during growth spurts.
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Bones grow faster than muscles and tendons can adapt early reducing control and increasing strain when new demands are added.
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If a breaking ball is introduced during this period, combined with a heavy game schedule or insufficient recovery, the arm may compensate silently until problems surface.
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This doesn't mean curveballs are inherently dangerous, but rather that their introduction needs to be timed appropriately.
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The path forward isn't about rushing to hit pitching milestones or matching what other players are doing.
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Instead, focus on building sustainable arm health that can increasing demands as the game becomes more competitive.
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Durability develops when stress is added thoughtfully, not urgently.
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Velocity, movement, and confidence should emerge as outcomes of proper development, not as primary goals driving training decisions.
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Success in in youth pitching should be measured by long term arm health rather than short term performance.
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The best decisions typically preserve a young pitcher's ability to throw comfortably in future seasons, not just achieve immediate results.
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This perspective helps coaches maintain focus on what truly matters, developing healthy confident players who can enjoy the game for years to come.
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Remember that curveballs aren't a required milestone that must be reached by a certain age.
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They're simply one of many tools that place demands on the developing arm.
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By focusing on building a foundation of arm health and proper mechanics first, players can safely add complexity to their pitching arsenal when their bodies are truly ready.
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Thanks for spending part of your day learning with us.
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If today's conversation helped bring a little more arm health, workload, or long term development, that means a lot.
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If you find this podcast helpful, subscribing and leaving a quick review is one of the best ways to help other parents, pitchers, and coaches find calm, science grounded guidance instead of noise and guesswork.
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These are conversations no family should have to figure out alone.
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For more evidence based education and practical resources, you can always explore what we offer at veloreset.com.
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Thanks again for listening.
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We'll see you next time.